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Post by Alex Richards on Jul 6, 2016 19:23:42 GMT -6
No, how would it be rude? Those feds would do the same to us if they had the chance.
Especially if it's not a fed you have any connection to. We want this fed to succeed. Why does random fed x succeeding matter to us? If only one is gonna succeed I want it to be this one.
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Post by Alex Richards on Jul 6, 2016 19:24:05 GMT -6
plus.. you can't steal someone who's happy in their current fed.
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Post by Spencer Adams on Jul 6, 2016 19:37:57 GMT -6
No, how would it be rude? Those feds would do the same to us if they had the chance. Especially if it's not a fed you have any connection to. We want this fed to succeed. Why does random fed x succeeding matter to us? If only one is gonna succeed I want it to be this one. I've been told it's bad Twitter etiquette to do such a thing. Even got subtweeted once with someone saying I was trying to "slide in their DMs". You know, because an efed invitation is somehow supposed to be equal to saying "Hey, u wan sum fuk?"
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Post by David Sanchez on Jul 6, 2016 20:10:34 GMT -6
In future if you get any shit for this just give me a shout and I'll dickpic those responsible with a snapshot of their face cropped over my bellend.
I remember getting blocked from an old Facebook E-Fed page for advertising one of my first feds. It's petty, people should be allowed to shop around.
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Post by jessicabuck on Jul 6, 2016 21:56:17 GMT -6
It isn't so much that it is wrong ...it is that it is ineffective on twitter. Nobody for a minute thinks that they are being contacted out of concern for their well-being, but more importantly, this isn't the old days where you can say "join my fed" and they do so. On twitter, people go where there is word of mouth and proof that the fed has activity ...via activity on the real twitter (whether that is indication of actually being active is up for debate.) People on twitter don't go off of what the fed head says on twitter, but what the handlers in the fed say about the fed on twitter. That could be talking up the fed OOC or, more so often, interacting IC. You CAN try to advertise on twitter, but if you don't have members dropping your on twitter and showing that it is a fun place ...most people just won't join.
When it comes to twitter, you have to accept it by its own (incredibly weird) rules. Right or wrong ...and I, more or less, see both sides ...you aren't going to change twitter. It doesn't matter how many people you get to agree with your point, that isn't going to change the percieved reality of it or the fact that what really brings handlers from twitter into a fed is more of a balancing act than telling them about your fed.
Also, what got me interested in this issue today was the fact that that the fed closed down was an angle fed that did things entirely different than an RP fed. Whichever fed tried pitching them, was not aware of this fact. They didn't care about what TYPE of fed that they were targeting towards, but just saw bodies. That isn't concern, that is wanting to bring people into your own fed without doing proper research on WHO you are getting. Honestly, I would be way more comfortable with that had the tactic been to specialize their pitch to the angle based roster. Also, I am not against DMing specific people based on the work a fed has seen of them and offering them a spot based on what they know of the character. More or less, I encourage a more personalized pitching style just in general. Know who you are recruiting, why you want them in the fed, and make sure your offer at least sounds personalized to them. I think that is fine. As such, I think a personal DM is the way to go. Tagging the fed in a tweet saying "hey, if you are looking for a new place ..." I think is way too generic and non-personal. If you really want them in the fed, make them feel special and don't pitch the same way you would pitch anyone else. That isn't what I see from most feds ...and that is why I am somewhat vocal about it, though I think some people DO overreact.
Finally, what it really comes down to is this: if they are going to judge you for how you approach them, do you really want them in the fed? If either party has such a closed mind towards each other, SHOULD they be working together? If they are so closed minded about being asked to join, how will they be when actually in the fed?
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Post by Spencer Adams on Jul 6, 2016 22:11:41 GMT -6
It isn't so much that it is wrong ...it is that it is ineffective on twitter. Nobody for a minute thinks that they are being contacted out of concern for their well-being, but more importantly, this isn't the old days where you can say "join my fed" and they do so. On twitter, people go where there is word of mouth and proof that the fed has activity ...via activity on the real twitter (whether that is indication of actually being active is up for debate.) People on twitter don't go off of what the fed head says on twitter, but what the handlers in the fed say about the fed on twitter. That could be talking up the fed OOC or, more so often, interacting IC. You CAN try to advertise on twitter, but if you don't have members dropping your on twitter and showing that it is a fun place ...most people just won't join. When it comes to twitter, you have to accept it by its own (incredibly weird) rules. Right or wrong ...and I, more or less, see both sides ...you aren't going to change twitter. It doesn't matter how many people you get to agree with your point, that isn't going to change the percieved reality of it or the fact that what really brings handlers from twitter into a fed is more of a balancing act than telling them about your fed. Also, what got me interested in this issue today was the fact that that the fed closed down was an angle fed that did things entirely different than an RP fed. Whichever fed tried pitching them, was not aware of this fact. They didn't care about what TYPE of fed that they were targeting towards, but just saw bodies. That isn't concern, that is wanting to bring people into your own fed without doing proper research on WHO you are getting. Honestly, I would be way more comfortable with that had the tactic been to specialize their pitch to the angle based roster. Also, I am not against DMing specific people based on the work a fed has seen of them and offering them a spot based on what they know of the character. More or less, I encourage a more personalized pitching style just in general. Know who you are recruiting, why you want them in the fed, and make sure your offer at least sounds personalized to them. I think that is fine. As such, I think a personal DM is the way to go. Tagging the fed in a tweet saying "hey, if you are looking for a new place ..." I think is way too generic and non-personal. If you really want them in the fed, make them feel special and don't pitch the same way you would pitch anyone else. That isn't what I see from most feds ...and that is why I am somewhat vocal about it, though I think some people DO overreact. Finally, what it really comes down to is this: if they are going to judge you for how you approach them, do you really want them in the fed? If either party has such a closed mind towards each other, SHOULD they be working together? If they are so closed minded about being asked to join, how will they be when actually in the fed? I get a lot of what you're saying to be honest, I Pm'd only one person from that shutdown who specifically said they were out of a place at that point. I knew it was an angle fed and didn't have a reason to really pursue it barely at all. It just got me talking after seeing others catching even worse flack than I did for inviting members of a dead fed in a polite manner. I just see things that I think need to be discussed sometimes with a point of view that is maybe a little different than the general Twitter crowd.
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on Jul 9, 2016 9:10:52 GMT -6
Billboard, Jay Price on it, reading "I want you to join UCI".
That'll get us people. Yup.
-B.
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