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Post by Spencer Adams on Jun 11, 2016 2:10:12 GMT -6
My biggest bugbear is the 'back story' of the fed. If I were an outsider looking in at this place and read that I would a) find it 'weird shit lmfao' and b) wonder whether this is an actual wrestling fed or something completely different. If I looked at this site and then say WCF I would without question join the latter because it's clearly fuckin wrestling and the characters act like wrestlers. I get its unique and wacky with a great little 'contained universe' but if anything it's restrictive and just a bit...silly. Make it about wrestling. Promote it as wrestling. Make the characters wrestlers. Everything will come much easier after that. The thing I made sure to stress with the idea of The Wave was that it be an extra thing. I think of it as warehouse in Chicago being the current setting. The backstory to me means something that is (hopefully) fun for people to kind of interpret in their own unique way. It's a weird balance and I think we're still finding that as our identity forms more with time. On one hand, there are people who will want more and more and just eat up lore and everything and on the other hand you might have people going "Nah, fuck that shit. I just wanna wrestle and win belts and shit." Neither of which are bad or anything. It's all on that preference and trying to strike a balance with the backstory designed by creative with the idea being to feed the lore lovers. I hope to feed the wrestling lover's mouths with opportunity out the ass. I don't necessarily see the lore as something that will or should fuck off completely or immediately or anything, but again, the design of this whole thing is to get it to adapt according to the community. I appreciate the feedback though. Keep it coming if you guys would like. |
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Post by Spencer Adams on Jun 11, 2016 2:11:51 GMT -6
Also, I kinda swear a little too much. Please don't interpret it as being pissy as it's simply a bad habit on my part.
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Post by jenson on Jun 11, 2016 3:02:53 GMT -6
I don't think the website is all that behind. With the exception of the Mayor news story posted the other day, there's been no new news since Week 1. That's going to be something that the handlers of the fed need to step up on. As I posted in the thread the other day, I'll have to be creative and come up with my own news stories along with the suggestions in the thread. Over in our previous home, the in-character news board was hopping like crazy. Same with the Internet board. It's honestly not that much busier than the In-Character News board. We brought over about 80%+ of the top talent from the previous place and it seems like here in UCI, people post a roleplay and maybe a tweet and then bounce for the week until the next card goes up. I don't understand the lack of participation here from the fed's handlers. I know I don't have that much room to speak since I no-showed week 1 and went inactive since. I do plan on returning next show, but it's just frustrating to see the forums move so slow. I'd put it down to a few factors. 1: The majority of people have new characters and are either in the process of starting or planning new feuds. Feuds drive story and motivation. 2: Summer. Hot weather, combined with things like graduations from school and new jobs = less time for people to nerd out on the computer. 3: New fed jitters. Even though we all know each other, I'm pretty sure everyone is still feeling out everyone and are getting their places established. I'm like 90% certain after the first PPV where we have all champions and feuds start happening, things will start to pick up on those boards. |
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on Jun 11, 2016 8:49:01 GMT -6
My biggest bugbear is the 'back story' of the fed. If I were an outsider looking in at this place and read that I would a) find it 'weird shit lmfao' and b) wonder whether this is an actual wrestling fed or something completely different. If I looked at this site and then say WCF I would without question join the latter because it's clearly fuckin wrestling and the characters act like wrestlers. I get its unique and wacky with a great little 'contained universe' but if anything it's restrictive and just a bit...silly. Make it about wrestling. Promote it as wrestling. Make the characters wrestlers. Everything will come much easier after that. Eh, the same argument could be made that the general boredom we're seeing out of everyone is due to things just being the same for so long. Not saying there's anything wrong with 'just wrestling'. Just saying that, well, making things less interesting isn't a step in the right direction. Shit, 'Megs and I have a working theory that we'd be killing shit if we took the story five or six steps further... I mean, we get that some people aren't into interesting, but... well, we're not some people.  By all means, ignore the backstory shit and just cut shoot promos or whatever. But yeah, the backstory thing is a huge step towards something way bigger (and way, way cooler) than just dudes talking shit and fighting over belts. It may not be what you're used to, but that's not a bad thing. Every revolution starts somewhere. -B. |
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Post by Wentworth Updegraff Jr. on Jun 11, 2016 9:00:40 GMT -6
I used to feel the same way as some people here about the backstory, but it grew on me. I started thinking about it, and I think it's a fun little thing that sets us apart. If it were something I felt like I HAD to acknowledge I wouldn't like it, but given that it's just a fun, optional thing for people to use, I think it gives us a cool little edge. As for the warehouse, I LOVE the idea of UCI starting out small and visibly growing as we go. I love that we have actual ratings and we'll be able to watch our fed grow from a little warehouse to a huge player. Then we can feel a real sense of something when new batches come along and see us as the originals. Anyway that's my two cents. If I had any criticism of this place it pretty much boils down to it's the first month, and we're all sort of still finding our groove.
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Post by Mr. Wright on Jun 11, 2016 9:23:25 GMT -6
I like the idea of a backstory. (Obviously with the mayor Sanchez character). But mostly because I never know what world we live in. I feel like everyone has their own world on their promos. Some people mentioning WWE implicitly or not or ACTUAL wrestlers whereas other people make up names parodying actual wrestlers.
This at least give us a world to live in within the show.
We live in a broken world based outta Chicago. The company will grow and the venues will change. It adds continuity.
The announcers have been discussed. Maybe if there's a thread that says
Christopher Morrell: Heel announcer
Michael Stelzner: face announcer
Josh Chambers: Play by play neutral
Or something like that then at least there's a guideline. But as long as 10 different people are writing them then there's going to be 10 different interpretations regardless
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on Jun 11, 2016 10:32:21 GMT -6
I used to feel the same way as some people here about the backstory, but it grew on me. I started thinking about it, and I think it's a fun little thing that sets us apart. If it were something I felt like I HAD to acknowledge I wouldn't like it, but given that it's just a fun, optional thing for people to use, I think it gives us a cool little edge. As for the warehouse, I LOVE the idea of UCI starting out small and visibly growing as we go. I love that we have actual ratings and we'll be able to watch our fed grow from a little warehouse to a huge player. Then we can feel a real sense of something when new batches come along and see us as the originals. Anyway that's my two cents. If I had any criticism of this place it pretty much boils down to it's the first month, and we're all sort of still finding our groove. I figured that UCI was started to, you know, do something new and interesting with the shit we've been wasting our lives on for years. Y'all know me- I love the concept of starting out indie and going bigger over time... and I really love the idea of starting indie in a world like the post-Wave UCI Chicago. I mean, how can people not dig that? It's fuckin' gold, man. Fuck, we're writing shit in outer space and we're still coming back to 'oh shit, what if this is going on in UCI Chicago?' every time we get to kicking ideas around- what does *that* tell you? And if you're not into it, that's cool- you can continue to no-sell the interesting shit and subsist entirely on vanilla roleplays 'til you die from it. Nobody's gonna stop you. Impose whatever limitations on your own creativity that you see fit, UCI Universe. But that - make no mistake about it - is *not* how we roll. If I wanted more of the same, I'd have stayed in WCF and relaunched the fucking Pantheon, and if you just involuntarily yawned at that thought... well, you're not the only one. What would've been a vanilla wrestling stable in one RP universe came here and mutated into a ridiculously deep universe that we're furiously developing. We have never written like this, and we are enjoying the shit out of it. Guardians is the most fun I've had with a computer since I figured out how to download porn with a 2400 baud modem. I'm excited every fucking day for all the new shit people come up with. I'm super excited that more of our friends are jumping into our nonsense; UCI Chicago (and the rest of its associated universe) has the potential to be as interesting a fictional universe as anyone's ever come up with... and I'm not just talking 'feds. Do whatever y'all want, but know this: It's a strange universe, and the Guardians (as well as their friends, associates and enemies) are here to keep it that way. -B. |
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Post by Wentworth Updegraff Jr. on Jun 11, 2016 14:22:13 GMT -6
I mean, IDK if we need to be shit talking anyone else's choices. The fact that it's optional would sort of go out the window if we decided to do that. I like it, but some people come here to write in a format their familiar with. I think that's perfectly fine, and can be just as interesting as anything else. Choice is the most important part of this in my eyes, and I want that choice to feel truly free.
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on Jun 11, 2016 15:25:38 GMT -6
I mean, IDK if we need to be shit talking anyone else's choices. The fact that it's optional would sort of go out the window if we decided to do that. I like it, but some people come here to write in a format their familiar with. I think that's perfectly fine, and can be just as interesting as anything else. Choice is the most important part of this in my eyes, and I want that choice to feel truly free. Please excuse me if I sound like I'm being a hater. That was never the idea. I only hate: * karaoke * wet socks * having a rash on my dick * my former stepmother * crackheads * pop music * when girls date assholes because they think they can fix them * reality television * organized religion on the whole * shellfish * the smell of patchouli * Nicolas Cage movies after like 2004 * Michael Bay * cloves (I used to love them, but...) * our modern American caste system * dudes who blast hip-hop out of car stereos with blown speakers * airplane food (as a comedian, I must hate this by law) * the Atlanta Falcons * non-dairy creamer * painfully sharp breakfast cereals * fax machine carrier tones * decaffeinated coffee * gluten allergies and the people that have them (I'm sorry for your digestive ailments. But fuck you.) * living in a city that encourages day drinking in public ...and a lot of other shit, too. Wow. Ok, maybe I am a hater. Still, not hating on people's writing. In fact, I'm almost always encouraging of people's writing. Unless you're writing a manifesto; I'm not encouraging that until I've skimmed it, ok'ed it and added a foreword. If we work together we can really show those federal imperialist pigs what we're all about, right guys? ... -B. |
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Post by Spencer Adams on Jun 11, 2016 15:28:54 GMT -6
Some people enjoy story, some people enjoy shoot and traditional promos, some prefer both. Whatever floats everyone's respective boats.
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Post by Gravedigger on Jun 11, 2016 21:10:52 GMT -6
Eh, the same argument could be made that the general boredom we're seeing out of everyone is due to things just being the same for so long. I noticed no dropoff in interest until the end of week 1 here. Any drop off in interest prior was due to previous places we were all at due to OOC issues and nothing IC or related to how ewrestling works from one fed to another. Yeah but not everyone finds when an e-fed deviates from being mainly about wrestling boring. I'm not arguing against the UCI backstory or what others, like you for instance, are doing here, but you're repeating the idea (not just in this post, but the other one as well) that anything other than what you're personally doing is not interesting as if it's fact. Again, I'm not knocking what you're doing here in UCI or in e-wrestling in general or trying to argue things either way, just saying let's not run around acting like our opinions of what is interesting are fact. When you do that, anyone who tries to stick as close to e-wrestling as possible who finds their work interesting is basically being told they're boring by what you're saying. Also, in reference to your comments about how expansive the UCI universe is and all the different things that are far out there that we can do, please realize that that gets confusing for everyone else when it comes to what we're supposed to write about here and how things get judged. If we take a look at what you're saying this place is, it makes it seem like hey, talk a little junk and that's great, but outside of that, do whatever and talk about whatever you want as long as it's interesting and you'll do great here. This confuses things from the perspective of this being an e-fed and from a competitive standpoint. 90% of what UCI is...is wrestling. Random percentage I pulled out of my ass just to show how much of the fed is wrestling. Otherwise this place wouldn't have been created as an e-fed. I'll state it again though, not knocking what anyone here is doing no matter if they're more into pure wrestling or pure storytelling or a mixture of the two, just trying to point out that it's not that easy of a subject. |
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Post by Leviathan on Jun 11, 2016 21:30:23 GMT -6
I thought the backstory was pretty legit. Gives the guys who feel like they have nothing in the tank something to work with and could lead down a whole new avenue of story. It exists to get everyone inspired, but it doesn't mean you have to follow it. You could even pretend it doesn't exist. It's all up to you personally. Do yourself. Don't worry about it so much. It's fictional wrestling! It's inherently ridiculous! Have fun however you want!
As for general fed feedback? No real complaints from me at the moment.
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on Jun 11, 2016 21:58:13 GMT -6
My bad if I sound like I don't think other people's stuff is interesting.
I get really, really ranty sometimes. Especially when I'm excited about stuff. This is why I should never be sited as a source on anything.
Nobody listen to me, ever.
<3
-B.
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Post by Gravedigger on Jun 11, 2016 22:17:57 GMT -6
Lol it's all good buddy. No harm no foul. <3
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Post by Jay Omega on Jun 11, 2016 22:19:34 GMT -6
The whole thing about the Wave backstory is that participation is supposed to be voluntary, right? You don't want to buy in, then don't. To be honest, I'm so used to people no-selling my shit by now, that I don't really care what anyone else is doing. I'm writing my shit, and finally having fun doing so again. You do you, and whatever is whatever.
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