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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 10:47:23 GMT -6
Who thought the Brooklyn crowd was trash...
That Beach Ball shit was so disrespectful and the fact that John Cena encouraged it was terrible. It has been a while since I have been SO angry at a crowd. I mean, there have been recent crowds that annoyed me and I thought were bad but this one was just terrible. I hope WWE doesn't come back to Brooklyn for a solid 2 or so years. They were just trying to get themselves over. Finn vs. Jason was awesome, I don't want to hear any of that "Jason Jordan is boring" bullshit because that man is talent and they were shitting on him before the match even started. Given gold, Brooklyn prefers the smell of their own shit!
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Post by L Verez {L-7} on Aug 22, 2017 10:58:51 GMT -6
SummerSlam wise, they were kinda shit. But Takeover had an awesome crowd!
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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 11:01:34 GMT -6
SummerSlam wise, they were kinda shit. But Takeover had an awesome crowd! I had heard the Takeover crowd was awesome (have still yet to sit down and watch it. Heard amazing things. Were hoping they would be that awesome for the rest of the nights but it seems to be getting worse. Summerslam had a bad crowd but Raw's crowd had to be one of the worst crowds I have ever seen. |
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Post by Spencer Adams on Aug 22, 2017 11:08:29 GMT -6
The thing with crowds is to keep in mind what WWE is in the wrestling landscape. It's not realistic to expect every crowd at WWE events to have that same respect that the crowd at say a ROH or NJPW show may have and that's because WWE is a corporation 1st and a wrestling brand 7th. It's like the difference between OG Woodstock and Coachella, right? It's not so focused on this great honor in the sport like a smaller indie show would be, but rather "Look how branded we are, buy our shirts and shit." I think Impact, LU, NJPW, ROH, and so on are shows you'd look to if you want to be guaranteed a passionate crowd who is gonna be generally respectful
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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 11:22:04 GMT -6
The thing with crowds is to keep in mind what WWE is in the wrestling landscape. It's not realistic to expect every crowd at WWE events to have that same respect that the crowd at say a ROH or NJPW show may have and that's because WWE is a corporation 1st and a wrestling brand 7th. It's like the difference between OG Woodstock and Coachella, right? It's not so focused on this great honor in the sport like a smaller indie show would be, but rather "Look how branded we are, buy our shirts and shit." I think Impact, LU, NJPW, ROH, and so on are shows you'd look to if you want to be guaranteed a passionate crowd who is gonna be generally respectful But what I am asking is not for a passionate crowd. I am asking for a crowd that isn't so up its own ass that they throw around a beach ball and actively disrespect the people in the ring. I would prefer they booed, sat on their hands, chant Roman Sucks instead of what they did last night. They made it about them and many other fans were annoyed as THEY were trying to watch the show that they paid to see. Most crowds seem able to handle that responsibility but this crowd became childish and pathetic and ruined what was otherwise a decent Raw (not great but not bad either). |
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Post by Buff Mustache on Aug 22, 2017 12:07:48 GMT -6
But then we wouldn't have gotten this gem  Brooklyn is my home so I don't agree. This is how wrestling always is here. Generally the chant is 'Black Kurt Angle (clap 5x) for Jason Jordan' We just don't like the angle he's put in. Even though we chanted it at takeover brooklyn (or the subsequent NXT rather) If it was American Alpha they would be cumming all over it. But yea... keep being a jerk about New York Crowds. suck it Gable! xoxo - Mr Wright |
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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 12:26:18 GMT -6
But then we wouldn't have gotten this gem Brooklyn is my home so I don't agree. This is how wrestling always is here. Generally the chant is 'Black Kurt Angle (clap 5x) for Jason Jordan' We just don't like the angle he's put in. Even though we chanted it at takeover brooklyn (or the subsequent NXT rather) If it was American Alpha they would be cumming all over it. But yea... keep being a jerk about New York Crowds. suck it Gable! xoxo - Mr Wright Midwest crowds are better! Sorry your state sucks so much.  Love, Gable But really, I have been watching the people justifying themselves by saying Jason Jordan sucks, but still love Balor despite it basically it being insulting for him as well. I think this is a time they were too smarky for their own good. And I don't care if someone doesn't like a wrestler, I get people have different views but the Wave and Beach Balls are too much. Again, I would have prefered CM Punk chants which I hate so much. I would have preferred what chants. Almost anything besides what they did. If anything, they should at least think about the other people who also went and had the show ruined for them because of crowd shenanigans. I have talked to people who were there who were pissed off by the whole situation. |
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Post by jenson on Aug 22, 2017 12:26:25 GMT -6
It's become the norm now unfortunately. The crowd after mania or slam are so far up their own asses that's it's bordering on offensive. WWE isn't innocent though, they encourage it under the guise of "a raucous crowd, so special" blah blah blah. The miz's promo was spot on when it comes to the crowd, but it was designed to get them even louder. I was done with WWE crowds when they booed Bayley for having the temerity to be injured.
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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 12:36:29 GMT -6
I was done with WWE crowds when they booed Bayley for having the temerity to be injured. Can we just talk about this for a moment? Partly this was WWE's fault for fucking up the booking on her. They basically had an ace in the hole and went "Now, I know this might sound crazy but what if...what if...you ready?...What if we fuck it up?" and steam rolled her momentum. But with that said, there was nothing Bayley had done to deserve those boos. Not from Canada or Brooklyn. That was such a cynical reaction from the crowd that I honestly can't get passed it. People need to stop confusing cynical-ness with awareness. |
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Post by jenson on Aug 22, 2017 12:43:55 GMT -6
I was done with WWE crowds when they booed Bayley for having the temerity to be injured. Can we just talk about this for a moment? Partly this was WWE's fault for fucking up the booking on her. They basically had an ace in the hole and went "Now, I know this might sound crazy but what if...what if...you ready?...What if we fuck it up?" and steam rolled her momentum. But with that said, there was nothing Bayley had done to deserve those boos. Not from Canada or Brooklyn. That was such a cynical reaction from the crowd that I honestly can't get passed it. People need to stop confusing cynical-ness with awareness. The WWE exacerbated this issue when they basically caved in on the Daniel Bryan push. Now the crowd seem to feel like *they* are the focal point of everything, that *they* can decide whether people get pushed or not. As soon as they see even the slightest hint of people doing what they don't want they just start being dicks about things. The whole Bayley thing was just too much. Did they think it was an angle or something? My head literally can't get around why they'd boo her for being injured. It can't process that level of douchebaggery. |
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Post by Preecha Kamon on Aug 22, 2017 12:56:17 GMT -6
Can we just talk about this for a moment? Partly this was WWE's fault for fucking up the booking on her. They basically had an ace in the hole and went "Now, I know this might sound crazy but what if...what if...you ready?...What if we fuck it up?" and steam rolled her momentum. But with that said, there was nothing Bayley had done to deserve those boos. Not from Canada or Brooklyn. That was such a cynical reaction from the crowd that I honestly can't get passed it. People need to stop confusing cynical-ness with awareness. The WWE exacerbated this issue when they basically caved in on the Daniel Bryan push. Now the crowd seem to feel like *they* are the focal point of everything, that *they* can decide whether people get pushed or not. As soon as they see even the slightest hint of people doing what they don't want they just start being dicks about things. The whole Bayley thing was just too much. Did they think it was an angle or something? My head literally can't get around why they'd boo her for being injured. It can't process that level of douchebaggery. I feel partly, a long with the Daniel Bryan kerfuffle, the crowd generally isn't into home grown stars. They are too into the indy darlings. Don't get me wrong, I love Finn and Owens and the rest as much as the next guy but I feel a lot of the other roster is being over shadowed by the fans want of these indy guys only and Bayley is on the wrong end of it. A lot of smarks aren't interested in WWE's own product really and just want to continue what was left off in the indies. |
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Post by jenson on Aug 22, 2017 13:06:46 GMT -6
The WWE exacerbated this issue when they basically caved in on the Daniel Bryan push. Now the crowd seem to feel like *they* are the focal point of everything, that *they* can decide whether people get pushed or not. As soon as they see even the slightest hint of people doing what they don't want they just start being dicks about things. The whole Bayley thing was just too much. Did they think it was an angle or something? My head literally can't get around why they'd boo her for being injured. It can't process that level of douchebaggery. I feel partly, a long with the Daniel Bryan kerfuffle, the crowd generally isn't into home grown stars. They are too into the indy darlings. Don't get me wrong, I love Finn and Owens and the rest as much as the next guy but I feel a lot of the other roster is being over shadowed by the fans want of these indy guys only and Bayley is on the wrong end of it. A lot of smarks aren't interested in WWE's own product really and just want to continue what was left off in the indies. Hipsters, a smark is just basically a hipster. They hate the WWE but they want to be a part of the scene nonetheless. They also don't appreciate a wrestler unless they've been an indie darling. If you've not been in ROH for 10 years then you're doing it wrong. Hell it's part of the reason they're still obsessed with Punk. Even though he shat on WWE. |
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Post by Buff Mustache on Aug 22, 2017 14:27:45 GMT -6
There's a time to pull the trigger on people and they keep missing the mark. right now they're doing everything PERFECT with Braun Strowman. But if they give him the title it will be too soon. But if they don't give him a title shot it's just as bad. They're in the perfect situation where Brock Lesnar is the only guy on the roster that can realistically take Lesnar in a match and they can do this right. Then when they ultimately give Reigns the belt at Mania they can have Strowman take the belt off Reigns and it will be epic AF
As for the fans, they never bother me. It bothers me when they're apathetic. There's nothing like going to an indy show with like 50 people there. But with 15K people in a city full of hipsters that watch wrestling for the irony and the drunks that take it too seriously of course you're gonna end up with a crowd you don't like in the midwest where you all roam in on your cattle herd and tuck your chain wallets into your JNCO jeans.
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Post by Biff Mustache on Aug 22, 2017 17:48:44 GMT -6
But then we wouldn't have gotten this gem Brooklyn is my home so I don't agree. This is how wrestling always is here. Generally the chant is 'Black Kurt Angle (clap 5x) for Jason Jordan' We just don't like the angle he's put in. Even though we chanted it at takeover brooklyn (or the subsequent NXT rather) If it was American Alpha they would be cumming all over it. But yea... keep being a jerk about New York Crowds. suck it Gable! xoxo - Mr Wright Brooklyn is not your home. You are a lame white mothefucker from Suffolk County. |
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Post by Tommy Glass on Aug 22, 2017 18:17:56 GMT -6
The thing about it is that the crowd wants to be a part of the show.
They were spoiled by the way Wrestlemania 30 apparently rewrote the main event for them, and now the precedent has been set that if you chant enough, you'll get what you want.
The problem is that WWE clearly meant it as a one time thing.
We're in an era where there are no threats the fans will leave, and thus wwe has no motivation to listen. So the fans as a whole are getting rowdier and worse, both because of and in spite of the fact it will go nowhere.
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