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Post by "Mr. God" Benjamin Atreyu on May 20, 2016 22:54:40 GMT -6
So, obvious to most, this group has quite a fair share of hip-hop/rap fans. So, I figured it would behoove one to make a thread to discuss the genre and its many facets. Not just the classics or the revered, but emerging talents, new releases, and rising acts as well. Name a future classic album, an underrated talent, someone you think everyone is sleeping on, or discuss the finer points of some of the loved of years past and what makes them relevant to even this decade. Pretentious opinion or not, might as well post it here and get some dialogue going with your fellow rap-fiends.
What makes a good emcee? Speed? Flow? Rhyme schemes? Confidence?
What makes a classic album? Cultural relevance? Musicality? Classic lines? Themes? Memorable tracks?
Vanilla Ice? Great? Awful?...Great?
Discuss it here!
As for me, currently checking out the new Aesop Rock release and its a pretty solid album. Wouldn't call him a favorite, but this album has definitely peaked my interests. He has some pretty dense rhyme schemes and a lot of dope lines. Plus the beats on this release are pretty fucking banging with plenty of grit and crisp production to give it character. Definitely worth a listen. May give more of his discography a listen because of this release. If I had on critique, his style - flow wise - doesn't very much. I mean, it can do a lot, and its still pretty great stuff, but one thing I like to hear in Emcees is to bring out a good amount of style variety and Aesop Rock kind of keeps it mid-speed flow in most of his tracks. But hardly detracts from how dope this album is.
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on May 21, 2016 15:33:28 GMT -6
Del the Funky Homosapien is my spirit animal.
That is all.
-B.
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Post by DeMarcus Jordan on May 21, 2016 19:13:54 GMT -6
I like difficult rhymes and lyrics. I'm listening to a lot of childish bambino right now.
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Post by "Mr. God" Benjamin Atreyu on May 21, 2016 23:50:19 GMT -6
Interesting video I stumbled upon not too long ago about various forms of flow through the decades. Very analytical and quite informative, worth a watch for all those who appreciate dense rhyme schemes.
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Post by DeMarcus Jordan on May 22, 2016 1:01:06 GMT -6
That was a really good video actually. I just didn't like that the girl went into it with a bias towards MFDoom. Not saying that he is bad, but Em is much better, I guess IMO.
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Post by "Mr. God" Benjamin Atreyu on May 22, 2016 1:43:55 GMT -6
That was a really good video actually. I just didn't like that the girl went into it with a bias towards MFDoom. Not saying that he is bad, but Em is much better, I guess IMO. I think her bias has less due to recognizing Doom as a 'superior' Emcee, and more preferring his his aesthetic and unique style. I mean, I recognize Eminem as a technically superior and gifted rapper, but I tend to prefer MF Doom's work for his particular style and unique lyricism. Edit: Plus Madvillainy is the mad note. |
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Post by taylor on May 22, 2016 9:29:55 GMT -6
MF DOOM is in my top 3 with Kool Keith and Tupac
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Post by Wentworth Updegraff Jr. on May 22, 2016 9:55:18 GMT -6
For me it's about wordplay and message. You can be the fastest rapper with the best flow and production, but if you're not saying anything, and you're not playing around with the language, I find myself giving no shits. One of my favorites right now for wordplay is Watsky, but if I had to put together a top three of all time always list it would be Tupac, Eminem (from 1999-2005), and Jamie Madrox, who most people don't even take the time to look at. It's all subjective though. People pretend there is, but there's no objective way to rank emcees. It's just like bands. People like what they like.
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Post by Spencer Adams on May 22, 2016 10:19:31 GMT -6
When it comes to the emcee side of things, I feel I should add The Palmer Squares to this conversation.
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Post by taylor on May 22, 2016 17:14:38 GMT -6
People listen for different things just like any genre of music. There are people who don't even listen to the words. They just like the beats. Other people don't care about the production or the music aspect and just listen to lyrics-- even then you have people who are interested in the technical side of lyricism, and others who only care about the message or relating to what the emcee is saying and don't give a shit about rhyme schemes and wordplay. So it really is subjective and depends on taste and what you are listening for.
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Post by Teo del Sol on May 22, 2016 17:36:32 GMT -6
I like to use foil paper if I can find it in a primary color, as wrinkles show far more if you're not careful.
Also-adhesive bows save a lot of headache, wrapping it around just makes it harder to open. I also have an aunt who exclusively uses newspaper comics.
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Post by Wentworth Updegraff Jr. on May 22, 2016 17:45:29 GMT -6
I like to use foil paper if I can find it in a primary color, as wrinkles show far more if you're not careful. Also-adhesive bows save a lot of headache, wrapping it around just makes it harder to open. I also have an aunt who exclusively uses newspaper comics. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 17:48:59 GMT -6
I'm going to not get involved in this.
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Post by Teo del Sol on May 22, 2016 17:53:00 GMT -6
Oh, Rap Music!
My tastes in rap music are terrible. I pretty much listen to what comes on the top 20s. Or whoever is on the Gorillaz albums.
But don't take my lack of effort for lack of interest! Rap produces some of the most diverse and intricate sounds available to the average listener, and I definitely won't turn off a good song.
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Post by Wentworth Updegraff Jr. on May 22, 2016 17:54:48 GMT -6
We should do a hip hop night in the dubtrack room one of these days.
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